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From kellywilliams81 at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 10:18:18 2010
From: kellywilliams81 at gmail.com (Kelly Williams)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:18:18 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] prayer request
In-Reply-To: <4C7997C8.6090004@lightlink.com>
References: <3203160f8b63450bd03f2921ae120b90.squirrel@trinity.xssl.net>
<4C7997C8.6090004@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <4C7E6EBA.3030602@gmail.com>
Yesterday morning my grandpa kamstra pasted away. Thank you all for the
prayers
Kelly Williams
On 8/28/2010 6:12 PM, Fred A. Miller wrote:
> On 08/27/2010 10:58 PM, Kelly Williams wrote:
>> Another prayer request now both of my grandpas are in the hospital
>> now. First was my moms Dad and now is my Dads dad is here now. and
>> pray that I stay sane.
>>
>> Thanks for all the prayers
>
> 'One thing we're here for!
>
> Fred
> --
> "Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it
> tougher for sober people to own cars." - Unknown
>
>
>
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From kellywilliams81 at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 10:22:25 2010
From: kellywilliams81 at gmail.com (Kelly Williams)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:22:25 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] prayer request
In-Reply-To: <4C7E6EBA.3030602@gmail.com>
References: <3203160f8b63450bd03f2921ae120b90.squirrel@trinity.xssl.net>
<4C7997C8.6090004@lightlink.com> <4C7E6EBA.3030602@gmail.com>
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Oh I forgot the other grandpa he is doing very well he might be going
home in a couple of days..
Kelly Williams
On 9/1/2010 10:18 AM, Kelly Williams wrote:
> Yesterday morning my grandpa kamstra pasted away. Thank you all for
> the prayers
>
> Kelly Williams
>
> On 8/28/2010 6:12 PM, Fred A. Miller wrote:
>> On 08/27/2010 10:58 PM, Kelly Williams wrote:
>>> Another prayer request now both of my grandpas are in the hospital
>>> now. First was my moms Dad and now is my Dads dad is here now. and
>>> pray that I stay sane.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the prayers
>>
>> 'One thing we're here for!
>>
>> Fred
>> --
>> "Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it
>> tougher for sober people to own cars." - Unknown
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ChristianSource FSLUG mailing list
>> Christiansource at ofb.biz
>> http://cs.uninetsolutions.com
>
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From ehurst at soulkiln.org Wed Sep 1 11:55:13 2010
From: ehurst at soulkiln.org (Ed Hurst)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:55:13 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] prayer request
In-Reply-To: <4C7E6FB1.6060504@gmail.com>
References: <3203160f8b63450bd03f2921ae120b90.squirrel@trinity.xssl.net> <4C7997C8.6090004@lightlink.com>
<4C7E6EBA.3030602@gmail.com> <4C7E6FB1.6060504@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C7E8571.3030806@soulkiln.org>
Kelly Williams wrote:
> the other grandpa he is doing very well he might be going home in a
> couple of days.
Thanks for the update.
--
Ed Hurst
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Associate Editor, Open for Business: http://ofb.biz/
Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
Kiln of the Soul - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
From lists at sombragris.org Wed Sep 1 12:29:05 2010
From: lists at sombragris.org (Eduardo Sanchez)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:29:05 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] prayer request
In-Reply-To: <4C7E6EBA.3030602@gmail.com>
References:
<4C7997C8.6090004@lightlink.com> <4C7E6EBA.3030602@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201009011329.05708.lists@sombragris.org>
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 11:18:18 Kelly Williams wrote:
> Yesterday morning my grandpa kamstra pasted away. Thank you all for the
> prayers
>
> Kelly Williams
>
Our sympathies and God's confort to all of your family. I also read about your
other grandpa, and we are glad that he is going to be at home soon.
Eduardo
--
Eduardo Sanchez, B. Th.
Traductor P?blico Ingl?s-Espa?ol
http://shadow.sombragris.org
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As then the Tulip for her morning sup
Of Heav'nly Vintage from the soil looks up,
Do you devoutly do the like, till Heav'n
To Earth invert you--like an empty Cup.
-- The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
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From fmiller at lightlink.com Wed Sep 8 19:53:33 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:53:33 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] VMware's Maritz virtually pronounces death of Windows
Message-ID: <4C88300D.3030306@lightlink.com>
VMware's Maritz virtually pronounces death of Windows
It could not have been easy for former Microsoft exec Paul Maritz to
pronounce the death of the operating system today.Maritz, who is CEO of
VMware, said during his keynote today that...
READ FULL STORY
--
"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it
tougher for sober people to own cars." - Unknown
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From fmiller at lightlink.com Sat Sep 11 22:53:26 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:53:26 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Take a few minutes...sit back, relax,
and wonder at the majesty of what God has done....
Message-ID: <4C8C4EB6.2010806@lightlink.com>
Take a few minutes...sit back, relax, and wonder at the majesty of what
God has done....
* http://www.andiesisle.com/creation/magnificent.html*
--
"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it
tougher for sober people to own cars." - Unknown
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From tbutler at ofb.biz Sun Sep 12 15:30:17 2010
From: tbutler at ofb.biz (Timothy Butler)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:30:17 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] OFB: Grace, Love and Fire: On the Burning of Books
Message-ID:
A little Sunday discussion fodder from my Friday column.
> Up until a few short weeks ago, the name Terry Jones would have garnered blank stares from most quarters. Now, his back and forth plans to burn the Qur?an have elevated the obscure pastor into the most talked about clergyman of the season. Whether or not this burning or others like it actually proceed, those of us who claim to follow Christ must grapple with what people like Jones bring to the image of the Church and the Gospel.
http://www.ofb.biz/safari/article/670.html
-Tim
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From ehurst at soulkiln.org Mon Sep 13 08:50:52 2010
From: ehurst at soulkiln.org (Ed Hurst)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:50:52 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Wireless Printing
Message-ID:
I'm familiar with wireless networking in most home uses. What's new to me
is wireless printing. A friend bought a Brother laserjet with wireless
capability. There is a home network all Windows. The printer is connected
to the home DSL router, which includes wifi. However, I understand the
printer itself has a wifi capability, apparently not in use right now.
Users on this home network often get an error indicating the printer is
offline. While there are diagnostics available, nothing seems to offer a
way to keep this thing from going offline again.
1. Is there likely something in the printer's internal setup doing this?
2. Would it work better to use the printer's own wifi or the home network
wifi?
3. Any other suggestions?
--
Ed Hurst
------------
Associate Editor, Open for Business: http://ofb.biz/
Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
Kiln of the Soul - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
From sjm.mlists at gmail.com Mon Sep 13 09:34:53 2010
From: sjm.mlists at gmail.com (sjm)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:34:53 -0700
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Wireless Printing
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <4C8E368D.80206@gmail.com>
> 2. Would it work better to use the printer's own wifi or the home
> network wifi?
As far as I understand it, the printer's wifi is just as a client, not
an Access Point. It is just another way to connect the printer to the
network, not the other computers to the printer.
sjm
From jonglass at usa.net Mon Sep 13 10:11:12 2010
From: jonglass at usa.net (Jon Glass)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:11:12 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Wireless Printing
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ed Hurst wrote:
> Users on this home network often get an error indicating the printer is
> offline. While there are diagnostics available, nothing seems to offer a way
> to keep this thing from going offline again.
>
I wonder if this is because its IP address is being changed. I would
recommend finding a way to give this guy a static IP address, or
finding a way for zero-config (aka Bonjour) printing to be activated.
It may require installing software on the computers. Of course, this
could all be true already, and it may be that it goes to sleep, and
the router doesn't have the means of waking it back up. But honestly,
I have so many problems with so many printers with waking that I'm not
surprised at their problems. ;-)
--
?-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
"I don't believe in philosophies. I believe in fundamentals." --Jack Nicklaus
From sjm.mlists at gmail.com Mon Sep 13 10:24:18 2010
From: sjm.mlists at gmail.com (sjm)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:24:18 -0700
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] OFB: Grace, Love and Fire: On the Burning of Books
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <4C8E4222.7020603@gmail.com>
> A little Sunday discussion fodder....
Discussion point posted in blog comments.
From josiah at ritchietribe.net Mon Sep 13 10:56:03 2010
From: josiah at ritchietribe.net (Josiah Ritchie)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:56:03 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Wireless Printing
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Jon Glass wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ed Hurst wrote:
> > Users on this home network often get an error indicating the printer is
> > offline. While there are diagnostics available, nothing seems to offer a
> way
> > to keep this thing from going offline again.
> >
> I wonder if this is because its IP address is being changed. I would
> recommend finding a way to give this guy a static IP address, or
> finding a way for zero-config (aka Bonjour) printing to be activated.
> It may require installing software on the computers. Of course, this
> could all be true already, and it may be that it goes to sleep, and
> the router doesn't have the means of waking it back up. But honestly,
> I have so many problems with so many printers with waking that I'm not
> surprised at their problems. ;-)
>
My own experience suggests that Jon has the right idea. Dynamic IP address
is a problem. I've done Bonjour setups for wireless HP printers with this
problem. It is very annoying and even then it can be touchy, but can work
consistently.
JSR/
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From ehurst at soulkiln.org Mon Sep 13 12:03:27 2010
From: ehurst at soulkiln.org (Ed Hurst)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:03:27 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Wireless Printing
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:56:03 -0500, Josiah Ritchie
wrote:
> recommend finding a way to give this guy a static IP address, or
> finding a way for zero-config (aka Bonjour) printing to be activated.
> It may require installing software on the computers. Of course, this
> could all be true already, and it may be that it goes to sleep, and
> the router doesn't have the means of waking it back up. But honestly,
> I have so many problems with so many printers with waking that I'm not
> surprised at their problems. ;-)
>
> My own experience suggests that Jon has the right idea. Dynamic IP
> address is a problem. I've done Bonjour setups for wireless HP printers
> with this problem. It is very annoying and even then it can be touchy,
> but can work consistently.
Thanks all of you. I'll be checking those issues when I go back to see
them.
--
Ed Hurst
------------
Associate Editor, Open for Business: http://ofb.biz/
Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
Kiln of the Soul - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
From davidm at hisfeet.net Mon Sep 13 18:57:33 2010
From: davidm at hisfeet.net (davidm at hisfeet.net)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:57:33 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Wireless Printing
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <719623dcbda67a2fe07abb0f829adf8d.squirrel@trinity.xssl.net>
I've never used a Brother, but when my Canon MP430 started with that
error, nothing I could do would make it work. We finnaly relegated it to
use as a stand alone copier, and got an HP.
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Jon Glass wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ed Hurst wrote:
>> > Users on this home network often get an error indicating the printer
>> is
>> > offline. While there are diagnostics available, nothing seems to offer
>> a
>> way
>> > to keep this thing from going offline again.
>> >
>> I wonder if this is because its IP address is being changed. I would
>> recommend finding a way to give this guy a static IP address, or
>> finding a way for zero-config (aka Bonjour) printing to be activated.
>> It may require installing software on the computers. Of course, this
>> could all be true already, and it may be that it goes to sleep, and
>> the router doesn't have the means of waking it back up. But honestly,
>> I have so many problems with so many printers with waking that I'm not
>> surprised at their problems. ;-)
>>
>
> My own experience suggests that Jon has the right idea. Dynamic IP address
> is a problem. I've done Bonjour setups for wireless HP printers with this
> problem. It is very annoying and even then it can be touchy, but can work
> consistently.
>
> JSR/
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> Christiansource at ofb.biz
> http://cs.uninetsolutions.com
From david at dmcentral.net Mon Sep 13 19:49:15 2010
From: david at dmcentral.net (David McGlone)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:49:15 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Wireless Printing
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <1284425355.20123.0.camel@buddy>
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 08:50 -0500, Ed Hurst wrote:
> I'm familiar with wireless networking in most home uses. What's new to me
> is wireless printing. A friend bought a Brother laserjet with wireless
> capability. There is a home network all Windows. The printer is connected
> to the home DSL router, which includes wifi. However, I understand the
> printer itself has a wifi capability, apparently not in use right now.
>
> Users on this home network often get an error indicating the printer is
> offline. While there are diagnostics available, nothing seems to offer a
> way to keep this thing from going offline again.
>
> 1. Is there likely something in the printer's internal setup doing this?
> 2. Would it work better to use the printer's own wifi or the home network
> wifi?
> 3. Any other suggestions?
>
If it's connected to the router that all the other wireless clients are
using also, then it seems to be the setup of the router.
I say this because if the printer is using a print server of the router,
the router will always have the same IP address. Belkin uses 192.168.2.1
and LinkSys uses IIRC 192.168.1.0 So there will always be static IP
access to the printer.
Another thing to consider is the printer itself may have a timeout or
sleep option or such in it's own settings.
On my home network, I have 4 wireless computers running through 1
router. This router has the IP address 192.168.2.1. Then I have a 2nd
router that features a print server plugged into the 1st router and it's
IP address is 192.168.2.254 and it is set up to only be used as an
access point for the printer. (I have it set up this way because my
printer isn't wireless and my *better* router doesn't have a print
server.)
So something tells me the router or the printer are not setup correctly
because those are the only 2 things that it could be if the network is
correctly setup.
--
Blessings,
David M.
From ehurst at soulkiln.org Mon Sep 13 20:19:22 2010
From: ehurst at soulkiln.org (Ed Hurst)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:19:22 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Wireless Printing
In-Reply-To: <1284425355.20123.0.camel@buddy>
References: <1284425355.20123.0.camel@buddy>
Message-ID:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:49:15 -0500, David McGlone
wrote:
> So something tells me the router or the printer are not setup correctly
> because those are the only 2 things that it could be if the network is
> correctly setup.
Well, my tentative conclusion is the printer keeps going into powersave or
sleep mode, which makes it offline. It requires some physical touch to
wake it up. This seems to be the most likely cause given what I have read
on discussions of Brother printers.
There isn't much config for the router, since it's one of those 2WIRE rigs
used by AT&T DSL.
--
Ed Hurst
------------
Associate Editor, Open for Business: http://ofb.biz/
Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
Kiln of the Soul - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
From tbutler at ofb.biz Tue Sep 14 00:25:28 2010
From: tbutler at ofb.biz (Timothy Butler)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:25:28 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] OFB: Grace, Love and Fire: On the Burning of Books
In-Reply-To: <4C8E4222.7020603@gmail.com>
References:
<4C8E4222.7020603@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <515342F2-69BE-4D90-9352-FF4E5A462393@ofb.biz>
And replied to. :-)
Tim
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM, sjm wrote:
>> A little Sunday discussion fodder....
>
> Discussion point posted in blog comments.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Christiansource at ofb.biz
> http://cs.uninetsolutions.com
From fmiller at lightlink.com Sat Sep 18 15:50:52 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:50:52 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Microsoft tea party against open source | ZDNet
Message-ID: <4C95262C.8010900@lightlink.com>
If you have made your career drinking the corporate Kool-Aid
(and Redmond can be
pretty isolated from the rest of the computing universe) what's going on
in the market these days can seem absolutely maddening.
Hence the crazy.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-tea-party-against-open-source/7387?tag=nl.e539
--
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson
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From jonglass at usa.net Sat Sep 18 23:38:50 2010
From: jonglass at usa.net (Jon Glass)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 00:38:50 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Microsoft tea party against open source | ZDNet
In-Reply-To: <4C95262C.8010900@lightlink.com>
References: <4C95262C.8010900@lightlink.com>
Message-ID:
My thought on this person's perspective? Clueless.
On Saturday, September 18, 2010, Fred A. Miller wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you have made your career drinking the corporate Kool-Aid?
> (and Redmond can be pretty isolated from the rest of the computing
> universe) what?s going on in the market these days can seem absolutely
> maddening.
> Hence the crazy.
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-tea-party-against-open-source/7387?tag=nl.e539
> --
> "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
> Thomas Jefferson
>
>
>
>
--
-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
"I don't believe in philosophies. I believe in fundamentals." --Jack Nicklaus
From lists at sombragris.org Wed Sep 22 07:40:02 2010
From: lists at sombragris.org (Eduardo Sanchez)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:40:02 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Bulk filename recoding?
Message-ID: <201009220840.03690.lists@sombragris.org>
Dear Listmembers,
I know the answer must be somewhere but I can't recall that and therefore I
ask for your help.
Problem is, sometimes I get non-ASCII characters in filenames; e.g.,
"r?sum?.pdf". Especially if those filenames come from zipped or RAR'ed
packages, trying to copy them from my ext3 filesystem to a FAT one (such as
those of pendrives or mp3 players), the file transfer in Midnight Commander
fails.
Renaming the filenames and ensuring that all characters in the filename are
ASCII usually solves the problem.
Now, my question is: how can I do this massively? Say, I have recursive
folders and subfolders that need to be renamed, something that would be too
burdensome to do by hand. How can I do it?
Thanks in advance,
Eduardo
--
Eduardo Sanchez, B. Th.
Traductor P?blico Ingl?s-Espa?ol
http://shadow.sombragris.org
--------------------------------------------------------------
'Tis all a Chequer-board of Nights and Days
Where Destiny with Men for Pieces plays:
Hither and thither moves, and mates, and slays,
And one by one back in the Closet lays.
-- The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
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From sjm.mlists at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 09:58:40 2010
From: sjm.mlists at gmail.com (sjm)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:58:40 -0700
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Bulk filename recoding?
In-Reply-To: <201009220840.03690.lists@sombragris.org>
References: <201009220840.03690.lists@sombragris.org>
Message-ID: <4C9A19A0.9000009@gmail.com>
On 09/22/2010 05:40 AM, Eduardo Sanchez wrote:
> Dear Listmembers,
>
> I know the answer must be somewhere but I can't recall that and therefore I
> ask for your help.
>
> Problem is, sometimes I get non-ASCII characters in filenames; e.g.,
> "r?sum?.pdf". Especially if those filenames come from zipped or RAR'ed
> packages, trying to copy them from my ext3 filesystem to a FAT one (such as
> those of pendrives or mp3 players), the file transfer in Midnight Commander
> fails.
>
> Renaming the filenames and ensuring that all characters in the filename are
> ASCII usually solves the problem.
>
> Now, my question is: how can I do this massively? Say, I have recursive
> folders and subfolders that need to be renamed, something that would be too
> burdensome to do by hand. How can I do it?
I assume you are on linux. Check out the "convmv" package. It can
change the encodings for the filenames. (IIRC, Windows prefers cp850 or
ISO8859 codepages while Linux prefers utf-8.)
sjm
From zerothis23 at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 18:01:54 2010
From: zerothis23 at gmail.com (zerothis baud)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:01:54 -0700
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] . Bulk filename recoding
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>
> Dear Listmembers,
>
> I know the answer must be somewhere but I can't recall that and therefore I
> ask for your help.
>
> Problem is, sometimes I get non-ASCII characters in filenames; e.g.,
> "r?sum?.pdf". Especially if those filenames come from zipped or RAR'ed
> packages, trying to copy them from my ext3 filesystem to a FAT one (such as
> those of pendrives or mp3 players), the file transfer in Midnight Commander
> fails.
>
> Renaming the filenames and ensuring that all characters in the filename are
> ASCII usually solves the problem.
>
> Now, my question is: how can I do this massively? Say, I have recursive
> folders and subfolders that need to be renamed, something that would be too
> burdensome to do by hand. How can I do it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Eduardo
> --
> Eduardo Sanchez, B. Th.
> Traductor P?blico Ingl?s-Espa?ol
> http://shadow.sombragris.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 'Tis all a Chequer-board of Nights and Days
> Where Destiny with Men for Pieces plays:
> Hither and thither moves, and mates, and slays,
> And one by one back in the Closet lays.
>
> -- The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:58:40 -0700
> From: sjm
> To: "A Christian virtual Free Software and Linux Users Group."
>
> Subject: Re: [CS-FSLUG] Bulk filename recoding?
> Message-ID: <4C9A19A0.9000009 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 09/22/2010 05:40 AM, Eduardo Sanchez wrote:
>> Dear Listmembers,
>>
>> I know the answer must be somewhere but I can't recall that and therefore
>> I
>> ask for your help.
>>
>> Problem is, sometimes I get non-ASCII characters in filenames; e.g.,
>> "r?sum?.pdf". Especially if those filenames come from zipped or RAR'ed
>> packages, trying to copy them from my ext3 filesystem to a FAT one (such
>> as
>> those of pendrives or mp3 players), the file transfer in Midnight
>> Commander
>> fails.
>>
>> Renaming the filenames and ensuring that all characters in the filename
>> are
>> ASCII usually solves the problem.
>>
>> Now, my question is: how can I do this massively? Say, I have recursive
>> folders and subfolders that need to be renamed, something that would be
>> too
>> burdensome to do by hand. How can I do it?
>
> I assume you are on linux. Check out the "convmv" package. It can
> change the encodings for the filenames. (IIRC, Windows prefers cp850 or
> ISO8859 codepages while Linux prefers utf-8.)
>
> sjm
>
>
>
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The Thunar file manager comes with
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ways to rename many files at
once.
From parrisdc at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 09:27:21 2010
From: parrisdc at gmail.com (Don Parris)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:27:21 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Bulk filename recoding?
In-Reply-To: <201009220840.03690.lists@sombragris.org>
References: <201009220840.03690.lists@sombragris.org>
Message-ID:
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Eduardo Sanchez wrote:
> Dear Listmembers,
>
> I know the answer must be somewhere but I can't recall that and therefore I
> ask for your help.
>
> Problem is, sometimes I get non-ASCII characters in filenames; e.g.,
> "r?sum?.pdf". Especially if those filenames come from zipped or RAR'ed
> packages, trying to copy them from my ext3 filesystem to a FAT one (such as
> those of pendrives or mp3 players), the file transfer in Midnight Commander
> fails.
>
> Renaming the filenames and ensuring that all characters in the filename are
> ASCII usually solves the problem.
>
> Now, my question is: how can I do this massively? Say, I have recursive
> folders and subfolders that need to be renamed, something that would be too
> burdensome to do by hand. How can I do it?
>
>
I use pyRenamer - it's a GUI tool.
--
D.C. Parris, FMP LEED AP O+M
Minister, Security/FM Coordinator, Free Software Advocate
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From ehurst at soulkiln.org Tue Sep 28 07:50:24 2010
From: ehurst at soulkiln.org (Ed Hurst)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:50:24 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
Message-ID:
I see a lot of writing about building applications to run in the web
browser. Is it possible to create a simple webpage on a Windows machine
which allows the user to load the page locally, and have inside the browsers
what amounts to a nice plain-text editor? Something that will allow you to
save the file back to your harddrive?
I've seen some really fine text editors on various websites. I'm wondering
how complicated it would have to be, but at the very least the spellchecker
is built into most browsers, just as you have with many text input areas on
blog sites.
Ed Hurst
--------
Open for Business - http://ofb.biz/
Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
Blog - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
From enzoaeneas at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 08:46:04 2010
From: enzoaeneas at gmail.com (EnzoAeneas)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:46:04 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Yes it is. Check out Mozilla Skywriter (https://mozillalabs.com/skywriter/),
formerly Bespin.
I keep up with it on the mailing list and all one would need to do is
implement the server side pieces so that one could save and load locally.
Or you could roll it into an extension for Chrome or Firefox.
I wonder though, why? To have a simple plain text editor while browsing or a
simple plain text editor that is rendered using a browser and can take
advantage of what that environment can offer?
I am (in my spare time) working on an SVG browser for Open Clipart Library (
http://www.openclipart.org/) and I am using Firefox as the basis for it. I
originally was going to use Mozilla's XUL, but with Mozilla's HTML and
Javascript-based Jetpack maturing slowly and the improvement of Javascript
libraries and browser adherence to standards, I have decided to make it a
web application that can run in the cloud or locally and use HTML5, canvas,
svg, XML, XForms, and Javascript.
But for what I am trying to accomplish, this makes sense.
What use cases do you envision?
--Kevin James
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Ed Hurst wrote:
>
> I see a lot of writing about building applications to run in the web
> browser. Is it possible to create a simple webpage on a Windows machine
> which allows the user to load the page locally, and have inside the
> browsers
> what amounts to a nice plain-text editor? Something that will allow you to
> save the file back to your harddrive?
>
> I've seen some really fine text editors on various websites. I'm wondering
> how complicated it would have to be, but at the very least the spellchecker
> is built into most browsers, just as you have with many text input areas on
> blog sites.
>
> Ed Hurst
> --------
> Open for Business - http://ofb.biz/
> Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
> Blog - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ehurst at soulkiln.org Tue Sep 28 09:36:56 2010
From: ehurst at soulkiln.org (Ed Hurst)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:36:56 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
> I wonder though, why? To have a simple plain text editor while browsing or
> a simple plain text editor that is rendered using a browser and can take
> advantage of what that environment can offer?
>
> What use cases do you envision?
It's all about convenience, my friend. If I can have a simple webpage in my
file system capable of giving me a text editor in just about any browser --
from lynx to whatever top-of-the-line graphical browser -- I can carry it in
my pocket. Further, when chasing academic information across the Net, it's
better and less distracting to have an editor in a browser tab than to open
yet another application.
Having the option to configure such things as soft-wrap versus static wrap,
and reformatting of the latter, are necessities, but more bells and whistles
don't hurt. The point is it has to run without a webserver behind it, so I
assume it will be lots of Jscript.
Ed Hurst
--------
Open for Business - http://ofb.biz/
Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
Blog - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
From jonglass at usa.net Tue Sep 28 09:58:18 2010
From: jonglass at usa.net (Jon Glass)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:58:18 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To: <2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
References:
<2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
Message-ID:
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Ed Hurst wrote:
> Having the option to configure such things as soft-wrap versus static wrap,
> and reformatting of the latter, are necessities, but more bells and whistles
> don't hurt. The point is it has to run without a webserver behind it, so I
> assume it will be lots of Jscript.
>
Don't know if this will do what you want, as it seems to need web
serving, but there's always this:
http://ckeditor.com/
or this:
http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/
or this:
http://www.unverse.net/whizzywig-cross-browser-html-editor.html
And there are always GoogleDocs and Evernote, both of which are or can
be web-based.
I can't imagine that there isn't something out there to do what you want!
--
?-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
"I don't believe in philosophies. I believe in fundamentals." --Jack Nicklaus
From ehurst at soulkiln.org Tue Sep 28 10:34:51 2010
From: ehurst at soulkiln.org (Ed Hurst)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:34:51 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References: <2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
Message-ID:
I really appreciate your answers, folks.
> Don't know if this will do what you want, as it seems to need web
> serving, but there's always this:
> http://ckeditor.com/
>
> or this:
> http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/
>
> or this:
> http://www.unverse.net/whizzywig-cross-browser-html-editor.html
I looked at those; they point in the right direction. The last one comes
closest, but they all emphasize X/HTML formatted output. If I understand
correctly each of them requires some sort of database behind them to capture
the output. I'm needing something to drop plain text into a file on the same
local system, whatever translates to "~/".
> And there are always GoogleDocs and Evernote, both of which are or can
> be web-based.
I need it to run on the local system, particularly avoiding a login.
> I can't imagine that there isn't something out there to do what you want!
I don't doubt that for a second. I'm not trying to get someone to write an
application just for me, but I was wondering if such a thing already
existed. I realize anything with Java can run JEdit, but that's not exactly
what I want, since I need it to be in a browser window.
Ed Hurst
--------
Open for Business - http://ofb.biz/
Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
Blog - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
From enzoaeneas at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 13:49:02 2010
From: enzoaeneas at gmail.com (EnzoAeneas)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:49:02 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References:
<2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
Message-ID:
You could always roll a javascript editor into an extension for Firefox or
Chrome and then add your own save and load buttons that save/load to/from
the local file system.
OR -
have your webpage open up a separate page and write your output to it as
text so that you can use the browser's save mechanism and give it a field
that you can type a path into to open using XmlHttpRequest and a file:///
protocol. You may even be able to use a dummy upload input on a form so that
you can use the open file dialog and then use javascript to read the path
from it and upload it using XmlHttpRequest or by just opening a new window
to that path and then read the contents of the window using javascript?
Wow that looks complicated when written down, but actually shouldn't be too
difficult.
--kevin
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Ed Hurst wrote:
> I really appreciate your answers, folks.
>
> > Don't know if this will do what you want, as it seems to need web
> > serving, but there's always this:
> > http://ckeditor.com/
> >
> > or this:
> > http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/
> >
> > or this:
> > http://www.unverse.net/whizzywig-cross-browser-html-editor.html
>
> I looked at those; they point in the right direction. The last one comes
> closest, but they all emphasize X/HTML formatted output. If I understand
> correctly each of them requires some sort of database behind them to
> capture
> the output. I'm needing something to drop plain text into a file on the
> same
> local system, whatever translates to "~/".
>
> > And there are always GoogleDocs and Evernote, both of which are or can
> > be web-based.
>
> I need it to run on the local system, particularly avoiding a login.
>
> > I can't imagine that there isn't something out there to do what you want!
>
> I don't doubt that for a second. I'm not trying to get someone to write an
> application just for me, but I was wondering if such a thing already
> existed. I realize anything with Java can run JEdit, but that's not exactly
> what I want, since I need it to be in a browser window.
>
> Ed Hurst
> --------
> Open for Business - http://ofb.biz/
> Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
> Blog - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
>
>
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From enzoaeneas at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 13:51:04 2010
From: enzoaeneas at gmail.com (EnzoAeneas)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:51:04 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References:
<2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
Message-ID:
I used to have an extension in firefox that worked like that, but it saved
to your profile. But here is another one that will do what you ask, but is
HTML and code oriented:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1002/?id=1002&application=firefox
--Kevin
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:49 PM, EnzoAeneas wrote:
> You could always roll a javascript editor into an extension for Firefox or
> Chrome and then add your own save and load buttons that save/load to/from
> the local file system.
>
> OR -
> have your webpage open up a separate page and write your output to it as
> text so that you can use the browser's save mechanism and give it a field
> that you can type a path into to open using XmlHttpRequest and a file:///
> protocol. You may even be able to use a dummy upload input on a form so that
> you can use the open file dialog and then use javascript to read the path
> from it and upload it using XmlHttpRequest or by just opening a new window
> to that path and then read the contents of the window using javascript?
>
> Wow that looks complicated when written down, but actually shouldn't be too
> difficult.
>
> --kevin
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Ed Hurst wrote:
>
>> I really appreciate your answers, folks.
>>
>> > Don't know if this will do what you want, as it seems to need web
>> > serving, but there's always this:
>> > http://ckeditor.com/
>> >
>> > or this:
>> > http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/
>> >
>> > or this:
>> > http://www.unverse.net/whizzywig-cross-browser-html-editor.html
>>
>> I looked at those; they point in the right direction. The last one comes
>> closest, but they all emphasize X/HTML formatted output. If I understand
>> correctly each of them requires some sort of database behind them to
>> capture
>> the output. I'm needing something to drop plain text into a file on the
>> same
>> local system, whatever translates to "~/".
>>
>> > And there are always GoogleDocs and Evernote, both of which are or can
>> > be web-based.
>>
>> I need it to run on the local system, particularly avoiding a login.
>>
>> > I can't imagine that there isn't something out there to do what you
>> want!
>>
>> I don't doubt that for a second. I'm not trying to get someone to write an
>> application just for me, but I was wondering if such a thing already
>> existed. I realize anything with Java can run JEdit, but that's not
>> exactly
>> what I want, since I need it to be in a browser window.
>>
>> Ed Hurst
>> --------
>> Open for Business - http://ofb.biz/
>> Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
>> Blog - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ChristianSource FSLUG mailing list
>> Christiansource at ofb.biz
>> http://cs.uninetsolutions.com
>>
>
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From ehurst at soulkiln.org Tue Sep 28 14:54:41 2010
From: ehurst at soulkiln.org (Ed Hurst)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:54:41 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References:
<2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
Message-ID:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:51:04 -0500, EnzoAeneas
wrote:
> I used to have an extension in firefox that worked like that, but it
> saved to your profile. But here is another one that will do what you
> ask, but is HTML and code oriented:
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1002/?id=1002&application=firefox
Now that one is really close. Too bad it won't work with the current
Firefox.
But I'd rather it not be browser specific. Oh, well; I can dream. I'll try
to get with someone who has time to code something like this in JScript or
whatever.
Thanks again, everyone.
--
Ed Hurst
------------
Associate Editor, Open for Business: http://ofb.biz/
Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
Kiln of the Soul - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/
From christiansource at davosmith.co.uk Tue Sep 28 15:16:36 2010
From: christiansource at davosmith.co.uk (Davo Smith)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:16:36 +0100
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Ed Hurst wrote:
>
> I see a lot of writing about building applications to run in the web
> browser. Is it possible to create a simple webpage on a Windows machine
> which allows the user to load the page locally, and have inside the browsers
> what amounts to a nice plain-text editor? Something that will allow you to
> save the file back to your harddrive?
>
> I've seen some really fine text editors on various websites. I'm wondering
> how complicated it would have to be, but at the very least the spellchecker
> is built into most browsers, just as you have with many text input areas on
> blog sites.
I might be getting this wrong, but would tiddlywiki work for you?
http://www.tiddlywiki.com/
This is a single html file, with built-in javascript and css, which
can save over itself or be saved out to a copy. Good for taking and
organising notes and should be portable to any computer with a
reasonably up-to-date browser (I think it chokes on IE5).
Davo
From jonglass at usa.net Tue Sep 28 16:11:52 2010
From: jonglass at usa.net (Jon Glass)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:11:52 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References:
<2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
Message-ID:
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Ed Hurst wrote:
> But I'd rather it not be browser specific. Oh, well; I can dream. I'll try
> to get with someone who has time to code something like this in JScript or
> whatever.
>
As I did some reading on this topic, I discovered that the problem may
actually be the one thing you want--saving to the hard drive. It turns
out that Java has to run in a sandbox in the browser, and you need
certified extensions, etc. in order to access the file system. Since
these are all controlled by a centralized agency, and, apparently,
must be paid for, it probably isn't going to happen via a local java
or javascript app. :-( And yes, my understanding is likely wrong.
I was going to suggest Tiddlywiki, having played with it in the past,
but since plain text file saving is what is wanted, it doesn't really
fit the bill, but may be an acceptable alternative.
--
?-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
"I don't believe in philosophies. I believe in fundamentals." --Jack Nicklaus
From fbax at sympatico.ca Tue Sep 28 16:26:20 2010
From: fbax at sympatico.ca (Frank Bax)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:26:20 -0400
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References: <2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
Message-ID:
Jon Glass wrote:
> As I did some reading on this topic, I discovered that the problem may
> actually be the one thing you want--saving to the hard drive. It turns
> out that Java has to run in a sandbox in the browser, and you need
> certified extensions, etc. in order to access the file system. Since
> these are all controlled by a centralized agency, and, apparently,
> must be paid for, it probably isn't going to happen via a local java
> or javascript app. :-( And yes, my understanding is likely wrong.
As I was catching up on this thread; I'm thinking ... How is this
request even possible to implement? I always thought that for a website
to be "safe" to visit there must be no risk that any webpage from the
site is ever able to write to your hard disk. Therefore, these appear
to me to be conflicting requirements.
Since security never seems to stop some coders from writing some types
of code; I suppose someone will find a way to do it; but I was under the
impression that the browser should prevent this.
It could be argued that loading the page from hard disk should allow
writing to the hard disk; but I'm thinking that will open another can of
worms. An application simply needs to confuse the browser into thinking
the page was loaded locally instead of from "outside".
From jonglass at usa.net Tue Sep 28 16:36:25 2010
From: jonglass at usa.net (Jon Glass)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:36:25 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References:
<2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
Message-ID:
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Frank Bax wrote:
> It could be argued that loading the page from hard disk should allow writing
> to the hard disk; but I'm thinking that will open another can of worms. ?An
> application simply needs to confuse the browser into thinking the page was
> loaded locally instead of from "outside".
modifying the file that was opened is one thing. That seems to be
common, but opening a "file save" dialog or "file open" dialog is
another matter entirely, as is saving to other files.
Oddly, my web browser of choice has a built-in source editor, which
makes moneylog.html a nifty tool--too bad it's too under-featured for
me. But in any case, if browsers could open and save text files
themselves, like mine (Omniweb for Mac OSX), this wouldn't even be an
issue for Ed. ;-)
--
?-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
"I don't believe in philosophies. I believe in fundamentals." --Jack Nicklaus
From ciamarie at my180.net Tue Sep 28 13:18:12 2010
From: ciamarie at my180.net (Cia Watson)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:18:12 +0000
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To:
References: <2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
Message-ID: <4CA23164.7050401@my180.net>
On 09/28/2010 03:34 PM, Ed Hurst wrote:
> I really appreciate your answers, folks.
>
And now I'm going to weigh in with a reply, too. One thing you might
want to try is Zim Wiki.
I use it on Fedora and I just installed it on Linux Mint Debian, also.
It's not browser based, it's a stand-alone app that I use basically for
desktop notes and reminders, etc. Here's a description:
Zim is a WYSIWYG text editor. It aims at bringing the concept of a wiki to
your desktop. For example every page is saved as a text file with wiki
markup.
Pages can contain links to other pages, and are saved automatically.
Creating
a new page is as easy as linking to a non-existing page. Pages are
ordered in a hierarchical structure that gives it the look and feel of an
outliner.
This tool can be used to keep track of TODO lists or ideas, to take notes
during a meeting or to draft any other kind of text (blog entries,
important mails, etc.).
From ehurst at soulkiln.org Tue Sep 28 21:41:24 2010
From: ehurst at soulkiln.org (Ed Hurst)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:41:24 -0500
Subject: [CS-FSLUG] Browser Text Editor Application
In-Reply-To: <4CA23164.7050401@my180.net>
References:
<2C66896B44674AF5B535460698BD6C40@user1>
<4CA23164.7050401@my180.net>
Message-ID:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:18:12 -0500, Cia Watson wrote:
> And now I'm going to weigh in with a reply, too. One thing you might
> want to try is Zim Wiki.
My, this has been very educational. As some of you suggested, I doubt it's
possible now that we've discussed it. Again, I appreciate the help in
talking through this. I will probably just keep a copy of JEdit and forget
about the browser-based.
Ed Hurst
------------
Associate Editor, Open for Business: http://ofb.biz/
Applied Bible - http://soulkiln.org/
Kiln of the Soul - http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/