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The View from Mudsock Heights: Linux Has Come Far - May 22, 2010 | 22:28:38 Re: The View from Mudsock Heights: Linux Has Come Far — In One Case, Maybe Too Far The saying is “free as in freedom, not free is in free beer”. Not very hard to understand. Re: The View from Mudsock Heights: Linux Has Come Far — In One Case, Maybe Too Far Your article is dead on. This has happened in other projects. I am still a happy Amarok 1.4 user. I will never use Amarok 2.x. Is Gnome about to do the same thing with 3.0? Posted by Val - May 23, 2010 | 9:32:22 Re: The View from Mudsock Heights: Linux Has Come Far — In One Case, Maybe Too Far I completely agree with your article. It is not just KDE that the developers have changed, it is also rushing most of the distro’s out the door before they are really ready. Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) is a good case in point. I had to jump through hoops to get it to work when previous versions 9.10 and 9.04 worked fine for me on my computers. The latest and greatest, is not so great. The same goes for Mozilla and the latest Thunderbird. After over 9 years of constant change with Linux Some good but lately Bad. I am now using Windows 7 with no problems so far. I think Linux has shot itself in the foot. To many changes to fast. Posted by M H Bell - May 23, 2010 | 9:37:21 Re: The View from Mudsock Heights: Linux Has Come Far — In One Case, Maybe Too Far Taste differs, and you admit that some might like KDE4, even though you dismiss it as being developed by folks who don’t use computers to “actually do anything”. Your conclusion seems to be that if you actually don’t do anything KDE4 might just be in your taste! I don't like DEs overall, except tolerating XFCE for being simple enough. As for Windows 7 I'm as a admin pleased it does support basic technology from scratch, making life easier, but beyond that I find several configuration tools and the layout of menus, being a total mess of old and new. Hence I don't understand why a commenter here likes Windows 7 but dislike KDE4, when the latter has a more consistent design. At work my main PC runs KDE4, just because it should be accessible for others, and I have to admit that it works really well. I can't really comment this article because it doesn't contain any substantial examples (exception if Kmail, but since I've never used it and prefer Claws-Mail, Thunderbird or Mutt I can't say if I perceive the current version as better or worse). KDE3 was fairly OK, but in my opinion KDE4 has a less messy layout, and system preferences are also easier to access. The new file-manager Dolphin might be a bit slow on old computers, but it has some really good features making work easier. KDE is at some level ridiculously customizable, where every window can be adjusted with zillions of preferences, but on the other hand you do fine without fiddling with these settings. This PC has run KDE4.1 up to today's 4.4.3, and I haven't encountered any problems, besides a temporary one in a early release, when changing window themes. There's no way back in many cases. Microsoft won't support old versions of Windows for eternity either. Even Gnome, the conservative alternative, will make bigger changes soon, but has probably learnt a lesson or two about when to label it a stable 3.0 release! Personally I'm a tiling window-manger user who at times use WindowMaker. Posted by KimTjik - May 23, 2010 | 11:6:1 Re: The View from Mudsock Heights: Linux Has Come Far — In One Case, Maybe Too Far I agree completely with the thrust of your article. KDE 4 is a classic example of “second system syndrome.” There are some really nice things in it, but overall it feels to me like an immature assemblage of technologies and ideas in search of coherence and stability. I still run KDE 3.5.10 on my old laptop, since I like to actually get things done on it. It doesn’t have the resources needed to run KDE 4 anyway and I don’t have the patience for programs that crash during routine operations (K3B, which used to be a paragon of stability), are unfathomable (Amorak 2.x), seem intent on getting in the way (the whole Plasmoid thing), or just don’t work (Strigi). Unfortunately, there are very few KDE 3.5 options at this point. It’s good to hear that Timothy Pearson is intent on carrying on, but it’s a shame that it’s in the face of the indifference to KDE 3 from the larger KDE development community. I’m searching for a replacement for my ancient laptop. For the first time in a decade, Linux compatibility isn’t a priority. Sigh. Posted by Rick - May 23, 2010 | 17:15:56 Re: The View from Mudsock Heights: Linux Has Come Far — In One Case, Maybe Too Far > But KDE 4.x is sufficiently different from KDE as it That isn’t true at all, it is very much the same in many ways. Sounds like someone is a bit grumpy to write this whole article about how a new KDE desktop has taken away their old toys or something. Every software project innovates, every software project changes an grows (or stagnates). If you like the old KDE, keep using the old distros, as everything must be perfect with them. The rest of us have moved on, for a few years now. I love the new KDE as much as the older one. I just dislike the user interface changes for the desktop plasmoids that happen every few months while they try to get it right. Doesn’t make it any less usable, however. Posted by lefty.crupps - May 24, 2010 | 6:6:38 Re: The View from Mudsock Heights: Linux Has Come Far — In One Case, Maybe Too Far This part just makes me sad: In America (the USA), ‘Free’ and ‘Freedom’ have a very real meaning, and the FLOSS software movement is trying to (and succeeding in) incorporating this concept into software use. But sure, you can try to make it all about money if you want. 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